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Old 03-19-2009, 12:42 PM
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Hi,

What do you do if you cant eat sweet fruit because of blood sugar issues
And you can't eat lots of fat because it makes you feel bad (like the sweet fruit)

What does that leave you with to survive in the raw food diet ?

Take Care,
Paul
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:44 PM
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Have you tried eating sweet fruit without fats at the same (more or less) time? From what I understand, fruits will cause blood sugar issues when eaten with fats, and they also digest more quickly causing them to ferment if you have heavy foods at the same time.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:50 PM
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Hi,

What do you do if you cant eat sweet fruit because of blood sugar issues
And you can't eat lots of fat because it makes you feel bad (like the sweet fruit)

What does that leave you with to survive in the raw food diet ?

Take Care,
Paul
FRUITS when eaten with pulp, skin, and a few seeds are not the ''SUGAR'''' DIABETES ISSUE !!!!!!!!!

FRUITS check the glycimic index are not the 'high' index, breads, pasta, cereals...............are high............

FRUITS when combined with GREENS leafy green ie spinach,kale, boc choy etc slow down the sugar spike..............

FRUITS are best eaten alone.

FATS ARE HEAVY, AND TAKE LONGER TO DIGEST...........EXCEPT FOR ''''FRUIT FATS''''' coconuts, avocados **don't overeat thos eventhoughtheyaregoodfor you !

Poor FRUITS............. they are so nutritious, delicious, and full of enzymes, vita, even proteins !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:25 PM
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When I first started I also could not handle sweet fruits AT ALL! I had to listen to my body, not other people. There was another forum that I participated in at the time and when I posted to encourage other newbies such as yourself, that it is OK to avoid the sweet fruits, I found my posts deleted - which is why I came here. Later, my reading showed me that inadvertently I was promoting Gabriel Cousens style of starting a raw food lifestyle and that forum owner knew it even though I did not and she would not tolerate any other viewpoints on her forum. Well, that is why I am now here. I did not know of raw food variations in theories from different gurus - I just knew what my body was saying. We do not have one size fits all bodies. Look at all the types of shampoos out there - nobody has the same hair either. Listen to your body.

Now I can enjoy sweet fruits but it took a long time. My personal family history has Type II Diabetes on both sides so it may well be that I was detoxing late life onset Type II Diabetes. Who knows?

At any rate, I have to listen to my body. The prudent thrifty me no longer eats every over-ripe banana that my family missed - because I prefer them on the green side. Sometimes I might blend those over-ripe ones in juice but mostly they just go in the trash because none of us likes them.

Listen to your body telling you what it wants more than anything. For example, this property that I am living on has a pink grapefruit tree laden with ripe fruit right now but I can't eat it. I no longer crave it - actually the thought of grapefruit makes me nauseous but I live for Lemons! Turns out I have a liver problem and my reading has shown me that there is something in grapefruit that is bad for liver so my body is telling me what the research has now proven. So I try to always listen to what my body says.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:54 PM
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I am with you on the sweets and fat scene

over the last 3 years of raw the fruits have become much more tolerable. But just like the last post, I have to listen to the particulars of my system. Apples and grapefruit no way.......dates, berries, apricots, bananas no problem

i feel much better with limited fats

all that said seeing a good naturopath will maybe give you more specific and useful information

i did a fasting glucose reading this week and came out as pre-diabetic......i already knew i had some insulin resistance by how my body felt but the information is really helpful because it helps me have a focus and reality check on what i am doing and the changes and positivity i want to bring into my life

also sounds like you may have a candida type issue happening

maybe look into getting a stool analysis.

western medicine in ssoooooo brilliant for finding the EXACT problem they just stink in respect to how to heal it. Get the information and then get some holistic care that can help

in regard to "what to eat"

i just started doing lots of green smoothies without the fruit and also like the lay out in gabriel cousens rainbow diet cookbook though it is a steep endeavor!!!

good luck and i am with you on this one!!!
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:57 PM
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oh and lots and lots of no-sweet fruit: zuchinni, tomatoes and red bell peppers!!!!
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:00 PM
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Yes, also when I started I found that mostly I liked the green juices "neat." Just the juice of one plant diluted with water. Cruciferous brassica types I could not do at all and now only in little bits.

Unless you have debilitative type health issues it is probably best not to get too involved with trying to treat them with raw - it will happen naturally rather than getting all over-involved and worked up about what you are ingesting.

I am still only partially raw as I do have debilitative health issues and I am disabled but I do hope that with raw I will heal eventually but I am no longer beating myself up about not being 100% - I can only do what I can do in any given day.
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:40 AM
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Thanks a lot everyone, very helpfull.

I personally can not eat sweet fruits, lots of people think im mad saying that.
I can eat fats , lots of fats but i do feel a big difference even in my personality and the way i think, and i also feel low in energy and get the yucky feeling. So i don't wan't to be eating lots of fats, which is what i have been doing recently to get my calories in.
Now i am thinking of doing lots of vegtable juices mainly carrots with green powders or kale juice added, it will give me a nice amount of calories and i don't usually get blood sugar issues when i drink these vegtable and green juices, i can have salads with lots of greens also.
Maybe i will buy some Buckwheat Groats, they are alkaline and im sure are high in calories, im not sure if i will do that as yet.
The other think is eating cooked root vegtables or potatoes for calories.
Maybe i will get used to eating a very low calorie diet ?

Thanks guys,
Take Care,
Paul.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:02 AM
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Hi! I LOOOVVEE buckwheat! Been thinking of getting some myself. It is high protein and I read that cooked it is alkalizing. Maybe keep it around for my weak moments. Sprouting buckwheat though? I hated it. Too starchy and needs too much water for a desert rat such as myself. Too much rinsing - could have watered a whole garden with it.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:31 AM
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I havent tryed it,
How long does it take to sprout ?
Do you sprout it and then eat it like porridge in water ?

Paul
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:31 PM
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I don't eat a low calorie diet, but I do eat lower fats and also I cannot handle the sweet fruits. So no cane sugar, bananas, grapes, raisins or dates, and I have to watch how much non-diabetic friendly sweetners I use (agave, stevia and yacon root are fine, I need to watch things like honey and maple syrup).

So it's entirely possible to eat this way and be raw. I eat loads and loads of veggies and leafy greens, and have the kind of fruits I do well with for snacks (apples, oranges, berries, melons, papaya, pineapple ...)

I tend to go more for salads, green smoothies, soups and wraps. Whenever I look at a recipe I enter it into a free online nutritional program (there are many) to evaluate the overall calories and fat, making sure I get enough protein and carbs. Then I make changes to tweak the recipe if necessary, to get it closer to what I need. For instance I found a recipe for Thai Collard Wraps which were excellent, but about double the fat, so I modified it (and that's posted here on the site).

I tend to not eat many nuts or seeds due to the fat content, and mostly get my fats from oils for salad dressings, although I try to get some olives and avocado in my diet too. It just takes thinking about, and now it's second nature. And I tend not to make many dehydrates or desserts as they tend to be be high in fat &/or sugar.

But if you want to be raw, then there's no reason you have to eat cooked things for calories - and being sugar sensitive, the root veggies might not be the way to go.
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:40 PM
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Um I don't remember how long - it didn't come out right because there is so much starch to be rinsed off several times daily that I got offended at the high water usage. I got it from a person who was sprouting it and then making crackers. She just got burned out on them. I got burned out just rinsing it. I like garbanzo beans and lentils sprouted.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:44 PM
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I don't usually even sprout my buckwheat. I find it's fine just soaked, like almonds or sunflower seeds.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:43 PM
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Warning about not doing too much sprouted buckwheat because it can create known probems:

http://www.gillesarbour.com/buckwheat.php
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:41 AM
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Interesting article. thanks.
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