substitute for breast milk for working Mom

alex · #1 12-22-2009, 08:07 AM

My family has been intruduced to raw food diet almost a year ago, we have made many changes in our diet and now we eat 60% raw including my daughter who is 16 months. I will be starting work in January so my daughter will only be breast fed 2/ day. What is the best substitude for breast milk for a todler? I am considering home made almond milk which she already drinks.

SchoolOfRAWk · #2 12-22-2009, 02:32 PM

100% go with young thai coconut milk/water - the liquid inside. It has nutrients only found in human breast milk, among other benefits.

Velvet · #3 12-22-2009, 03:40 PM

I agree 100% with Erika.

Also, I think hemp milk is very beneficial, more so than almond milk. It's a complete protein and is full of iron and other goodies.

marykays1 · #4 12-22-2009, 04:24 PM

I would imagine that you have moral issues with using an animal milk, however, when my twins were a couple mos old, and I had trouble keeping up, I used raw goat's milk. I ended up nursing them until they self weaned at almost four.

Here is a well-researched formula from Weston Price. I would imagine that if you wanted to be vegan, you could add say, hemp milk etc as others have suggested in with some of these other supplements.

I might also add some butter oil (I know , not vegan, but the Vit K in it helps your baby absorb more of the minerals etc, so since you're not using the milk, maybe you'd want to bend a little and use the Vit K --- or the CLO...If not, then your baby is still getting fed breastmilk twice a day, and you could up your fat intake, especially Vit D, and use some of these other things....Oh heck, here's the info,m I'm sure you can figure out what you'd like to do! LOL

RAW MILK-BASED BABY FORMULA From Weston A. Price Foundation

2 cups whole, raw milk from pasture-fed cows
1/4 cup homemade liquid whey
4 tablespoons lactose
1 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis powder
2 or more tablespoons good quality raw cream, more if you are using milk from Holstein cows
1 teaspoon cod liver oil
1 teaspoon expeller-expressed sunflower oil
1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil
2 teaspoons coconut oil (heat to 76° to liquify)
2 teaspoons nutritional yeast flakes
2 teaspoons gelatin
1 7/8 cups filtered water
1/4 teaspoon acerola powder

Add gelatin to water and warm until granules dissolve. Put this and all the other ingredients into a blender and mix well. Transfer to a clean glass or stainless steel container for storage.

To Serve:

Pour 6-8 ounces into a clean glass bottle, attach nipple and heat gently in a pan of simmering water. Don't over do it, just enough so it's warm to the touch, then shake well and feed**************************

Sounds complicated, but I have read where others have gotten into the "swing of it" after making a few times.

HTH,

Mary Kay

Velvet · #5 12-23-2009, 06:41 AM

Of all the animal milks, apparently goat's milk is most similar to human's milk.

If you do animal products, I'd imagine that combining breast milk with coconut water, goat's milk and hemp milk will give your child a GREAT start in life. (not all at the same time! Separately).

SchoolOfRAWk · #6 12-23-2009, 07:23 AM

Young Thai coconut milk, again. Research it. My friend did it instead of fresh almond milk. It is also naturally sweet, unlike nut milks. Although I agree about hemp if you use it.

Velvet · #7 12-23-2009, 07:46 AM

Erika, are you against hemp? Just curious, nothing else

I know some people are, like Daniel Vitalis.

marykays1 · #8 12-23-2009, 07:49 AM

Really? Why is he against it? Never knew that! Meanwhile I have five lbs of hemp seeds in my freezer!

Mary Kay

Velvet · #9 12-23-2009, 08:16 AM

Oh no, he's like, one of the only people against it. He says that they contain phyto estrogens which are feminizing, and that they haven't been around as a food long enough to know what they do to us. He says the same of flax.

I disagree 100%. Hemp has been used as a food for a long time, and it's only until recently that it was demonized (recently in the grand scheme of things). I have hemp, chia or flax every single day and I feel great eating them. I think they are a wonderful, nutritious addition to someone's diet.

But, he also says that men are becoming more feminine, and that it shows with the trend of men doing yoga. Mmm.... Yoga was traditionally a man's sport, first of all, and I don't see men doing yoga as feminine. I see them as strong, flexible and lean, and that's a very sexy thing to me as a woman. I think it was NatureMom who mentioned that a friend of hers is a fireman, and he still does yoga and finds it beneficial for his work.

Anyway, back to hemp... enjoy your stockpile

I get hemp by the 10 lb bucket, and love it. OH YES, he said something that is actually true. Hemp can go rancid quickly, which shows when it's yellow and stuff. I always freeze my hemp right away when I get it, and get it from a very fresh source, Manitoba Harvest. My hemp is always creamy white with a bit of green. Perfect!

alex · #10 12-23-2009, 12:11 PM

thank you all for your fast reply, I find all this information very beneficial and appreciate it very much.
Alexandra

SchoolOfRAWk · #11 12-25-2009, 09:32 PM

No, I think hemp is fabulous.Why do you ask? I just think that as a substitute for human breast milk, young thai coconut water/milk is superior. It's outstanding and even bears a nutritional resemblance to it. Nut milks do not.

Velvet · #12 12-26-2009, 06:30 AM

Oh OK. Yes, as I said above, coconut water is best! If she wants to add nut milk too though, I'd think hemp is better than almond. But almond does have more calcium...

SchoolOfRAWk · #13 12-26-2009, 08:05 AM

I agree with you. You can always add a variety of nut milks later. Brazil, Almond, Hemp.... :-) Hemp is awesome, though.

NatureMom · #14 12-26-2009, 07:34 PM

[quote=Velvet;58505]But, he also says that men are becoming more feminine, and that it shows with the trend of men doing yoga. Mmm.... Yoga was traditionally a man's sport, first of all, and I don't see men doing yoga as feminine. I see them as strong, flexible and lean, and that's a very sexy thing to me as a woman. I think it was NatureMom who mentioned that a friend of hers is a fireman, and he still does yoga and finds it beneficial for his work.
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Yes, I did say that Velvet!

My brother-in-law is a firefighter (now a battalion chief). He's been injured seriously in his work and obviously it is a demanding job! He finds yoga indispensible! Both to his strength and vitality/energy, and also in coping with the after effects of the injury. He's lean and wiry and unbelievably strong physically. It also helps him handle the stress of the job.

(Daniel Vitalis got me inspired to seek out natural water as I said before, but that comment about yoga always bothered me).

Velvet · #15 12-27-2009, 06:23 AM

I have a really good memory

A lot of things that Daniel says are good. I remember that as a child, my father would take me to gather water from the mountains every once in a while, and he'd do a "cleanse" on them, where it was the only water he'd drink. I suspect it was a high magnesium water. Anyway, it was really cool.

Still, yoga and hemp all the way!