Well, this week is my first week of really trying to be as close to 80/10/10 as possible. One day I ate a whole seedless watermelon. One day I ate two pineapples. In four days, I ate over 40 bananas. I am trying to do mono eating.
Why?
Well -- a couple of reasons. I want my body to have easy digestion, and I want to eat only when hungry. When you eat the same thing, after awhile you only eat when you are really hungry, and you eat to satisfaction. The emotions such as being board, or feeling sad, don't come in to play.
Basically this is my generic menu:
Breakfast: mono fruit smoothie (3 bananas & water & ice)
snack: mono fruit
Lunch: Mono fruit or mono fruit smoothie
snack: mono fruit
Dinner: Green salad with avo & something else (usually not even raw right now -- but sometimes another smoothie)
snack: mono fruit
If you use nutridiary, you can set it up for 80/10/10. As long as you eat raw, high fruit with little to no nuts and limited avocados, you will automatically get your numbers very close to 80% carbs, 10% protein and 10% fat.
I am actually having more success and feeling more satisfied doing this than just trying 100% raw by itself. Of course, this is just me...I LOVE FRUIT!!!!!!
Greenmama is also 811 -- she has a great blog: Greenmamas Raw Adventures. S She is a member here at RFC, too. I also like Sarah's blog, Going Bananas -- she just made it to 6 months on 811, and she did a mono watermelon fast. She isn't posted much now, but if you read from the beginning, I am sure you will get hooked.
I feel my absolute best eating 811 and it gives me the results I want. I lost 60 pounds in 3 months eating high raw 811. I wonder what it could do for me if I gave it 100% and did all raw? I had ZERO cravings too!
I've read most of the book and have seen videos of Graham and my best friend met him at a conference. I like a lot of his information but I have to say my opinion - and it is just that; sometimes intuitive and other times just my educated opinion - that honestly, there is something off about him to me. At the conference, he offended most people in his audience with an off the wall comment, and honestly, I know people who have gotten very deficient on 811. I wholeheartedly believe in supplementation. Not crazily, but yeah, supplementation. And I think his opinions on sea salt, sea veggies and coconuts are totally unfounded. That said, he has many great things to offer. Many feel great for awhile on his diet, but, overall, with some exceptions surely, long term NH people are known for their deficiencies and for their cult-like fervor about NH. (Note: I LOVE a lot of principles of NH, and am not disrespecting it, just putting out this healthy precaution). As long as people don't make 8/1/1 their lifelong bible and are sure to read other opinions and ideas and, most importantly, listen to their bodies above all - especially after the initial "honeymoon" period is over, it should be fine. But some have gotten majorly deficient on this, and have endured health problems. IMO, Doug Graham presents a really absolutist and extreme way of eating raw as good for ALL raw foodists, and that is always a red flag for me as it is simply never that easy. Now, enjoy your thread. :-)
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i have been on the 8-1-1 lifestyle for 6 years now and really cannot even imagine it being inadequate or less than ideal, and i have done some experimenting, never heard of any deficienciencies and if so, whos to simply blame them on "it was that 80-10-10 alright", its so strange that someone cant just simply say it, spit it out what they are talking about, it is the most natural and wonderful way of eating a ratio endorsed by the international olympic comitee as being the best for everyone, deficient in what? id wonder for the sake of yall readers love yall p.s.why dont we all just have a huge fitness contest to show off us 811rv champs, love
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i have been on the 8-1-1 lifestyle for 6 years now and really cannot even imagine it being inadequate or less than ideal, and i have done some experimenting, never heard of any deficienciencies and if so, whos to simply blame them on "it was that 80-10-10 alright", its so strange that someone cant just simply say it, spit it out what they are talking about, it is the most natural and wonderful way of eating a ratio endorsed by the international olympic comitee as being the best for everyone, deficient in what? id wonder for the sake of yall readers love yall p.s.why dont we all just have a huge fitness contest to show off us 811rv champs, love
Rhio, the raw author and speaker, is one of them. Another is a raw athlete from another board. And there are plenty more. My friends emaciates on 8/1/1, no matter WHAT he eats. It is simply not optimal for all as a result is all. That does not mean it is not optimal for SOME. People grow deficient on 8/1/1 or Natural Hygiene sometimes and know it from getting levels tested before and during of various nutrients/minerals. Plus, stuff like long-term hair loss and more. Dr. Jameth Sheridan, by the way, has dealt with this a LOT with long term hygienists. He is the owner of Health Force Nutritionals and is an activist. It is important to check things like B12 levels and other elements of health, honestly. And it is important to realize that soil just isn't what it was 50 yrs ago, organic or not. It's STILL deficient. Women sometimes totally stop their menses on it and get emaciated, and they are "congratulated" for their purity. From what I have seen, these are not really aspects of health but of an unscientifically proven belief of NH. And if people have thyroid disease, etc, eating sea veggies is incredibly beneficial.....but 8/1/1 would never promote it. So, just saying that there is more than one side and to listen to your body is all. I'm glad you are doing so great. Others have not, over time. Likewise, when some eat too many heavy gourmet dishes, it's not ideal either. ;-) Peace, Erica
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yeah ive seen jameth and all his hype up at the oregon festival, like they know what it means to "be an 8-1-1 natural hygienist". emaciated is how people look when they dont have any body fat or excess water retention to hide that they have not muscle unless they are severely undereating on fruit, how does one base what a healthy b-12 level for a raw vegan is anyway? actually ive heard that SEA "vegetables" or protists as they are scientifically called, contain anaolg b-12 that take up the receptor sites and actually lead to lower B-12 levels, anyone willing to make it work and strengthen their weakest links seems to improve, there are many factors of a healthful lifestyle. hey thanks for posting this board on myspace, i dont know what other board you might have seen me on either doug's or rawpleasure, see you at raw spirit with jameth?never met an emaciated 811er ,met women that say menstruation is unnatural though and seem to have wonderful lives and even bear children.i have seen many folks short of muscle in my opinion everyone is in some form, lets get out there and smash some records without the roids or stimulants
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I personally wanted this thread to stay positive....Everyone will disagree about EVERY type of eating... sad, low-fat, no carbs, vegetarian, vegan, mcdougal, raw and 811. There are so many places for the scary warnings and "BEWARE" threads on the internet, this thread is just for positve stuff! There may or not be solid scientific research/evidence on every diet. You need to really research it, and choose which is best for you, what you feel good about.
So -- if you are curious about 811, this is the thread for you. If you don't agree with it, that is fine, just keep it positive. I would hate for this innocent thread to become a big debate over 811 or Dr Doug Graham.
There are many parts of 811 -- take what you need and leave the rest. Just like everything in life!
I was not trying to bash it, and don't think I did, or was negative, for the record. I honestly posted the concern, along with some positive comments about the diet, and moved on - but why is it wierd/negative to show the concerns of following a pretty extreme form of raw veganism in a thread on it? Not having a lot of body fat or water retention and being emaciated are two different things I would say, though. And some need B12 supplements, period, unfortunately. I like a lot of what DG preaches, but it hasn't worked for all and when NH doesn't work for people, sometimes they start just believing they are healthy anyways, etc. It's an odd phenomenon you see within NH-ers. NOT ALL! Supurr, I'm glad you found out about us via Myspace! Too Cool! And I can clearly see you are athletic and muscular - I think you are obviously a very radiant example of health! I won't be at any upcoming raw fests but will post on these boards when I am, for sure! I'll be sure to bring extra cinnamon rolls - LOL! Enjoy your thread!
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I'm curious about 8/1/1 too. In fact I ordered the 80/10/10 book yesterday and am eagerly anticipating it's arrival. I wasn't necessarily looking for the 8/1/1 diet specifically. What I was looking for was a new raw-centric book that went beyond the intro to raw foods and cheering on the concept of going 100% raw, and instead introduced my mind to new territory whether it be diet or other. I evaluated a few of them to see which one seemed like the next right step for me. The one that I decided on in the end was the 80/10/10 book. So I'll probably be trying it out here soon enough. Perfect timing I suppose.
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811 (80/10/10) Info, Questions & More
So basically I am curious what you eat in a day...and how much..and how do you keep track of the percentages?
My 80/10/10
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never met an emaciated 811er ,met women that say menstruation is unnatural though and seem to have wonderful lives and even bear children.i have seen many folks short of muscle in my opinion everyone is in some form, lets get out there and smash some records without the roids or stimulants
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